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    Posted: 15 May 2017 at 14:40
 
The weak link in the Carc fuel system (the plastic spigot that can break when disconnecting the fuel line when taking off the tank)
 
Alternate part is Ford part 1072003 about £9.50p exc vat.
 
 
 
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The more expensive, but also more durable option is to get an aftermarket pipe / hose decoupler. BMW owners and Hinckley Triumph triple owners of a certain age will have come across CPC fittings. Suitable for fuel injected systems as long as you ensure they are compatible with viton seals. At the time of posting this I have on order a pair of straight fittings with internal valves in both sides to stop leaking when unconnected. Used something similar on a Speed Triple with good results.

Ordered from Tom Parker Limited - part numbers I went for are cLCD170-04V and cLCD220-04V. The "V" designates viton seals, so petrol resistance.

CPC (and Tom Parker) also do plastic versions which are much cheaper than the chrome plated brass fittings listed above
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i used the plastic version and never had any problems re leaks etc.  
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I used to have a Triumph Tiger 955i which was fitted with the plastic quick-release connectors. A number of people reported these fracturing (usually of course with a full tank) leading to gallons of petrol cascading over a hot engine.

I changed mine for the CPC chrome plated brass versions - admittedly more expensive but worth it for me for the peace of mind. As it happened, my original plastic connectors came out unbroken with no trouble.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Feb 2019 at 16:33
Originally posted by Jim Mac Jim Mac wrote:

i used the plastic version and never had any problems re leaks etc.  

I think it's problems getting the thing apart which bugs most people.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jim Mac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 2019 at 11:33
thats right Brian,  i left the red valve in place after breaking it and r eplacing it - but then inserted an in line release to avoid disconnecting at the tank.  takes seconds if the tank needs to come off with no fear of snapping the red one
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 2019 at 11:37
Yes, think I ought to do the same. Last time I wanted to lift the tank off I couldn't get that connector to budge so lifted the tank onto a bench alongside instead.

Was the one you got something like this?


Edited by Brian UK - 28 Feb 2019 at 11:41
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Hi Brian...if you check the description of eBay item it says it ain’t suitable for fuel injection.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 2019 at 16:06
I hadn't looked at the detail just interested in what type of connector was used.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TooJuicy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Feb 2019 at 20:49
Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

I hadn't looked at the detail just interested in what type of connector was used.

Brian - I guess you already know but the in-line brass (or plastic alternative) used by Guzzigraham successfully above look like that, like those on eBay you referenced.  Perhaps I'm missing your point.

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The CPC ones are suitable if you order the correct fittings. These need to have a letter 'V' in the part number which denotes that they are fitted with a viton o-ring seal and so are resistant to petrol.

I sourced from Tom Parker who even highlighted this to me before sending as I added a shipping note "Guzzi fuel line" and had the order wrong, (wrong seal). Corrected and when I bought they were quickly dispatched and are now doing a sterling job on the V1200 Sport.

I got something similar from CPC a few years ago for my Triumph 955i. Triumph forums are full of references to CPC fittings so there is a lot of experience in using them. I have also 'seen a 'how to fit' tutorial for a BMW R1150 'Charlie and Ewan' bike too using the same thing. I am pretty sure they are suitable as long as you remember to order the viton seal type.

Edited by guzzigraham - 08 Apr 2019 at 12:58
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