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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Simond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Oct 2021 at 12:40
As the pedestrian was presumably uninsured, I guess you had to sue him/her?

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He was killed. He was operating a burger van with no liability insurance. After 5 years, 'Bike Lawyer' from MCN won me enough in an out of court settlement from his motor insurance to cover my very large losses after Foootman James, my insurer just looked the other way.. I just couldn't raise enough to keep fighting through the courts. But it was a salutary lesson about the bash hat.
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Glad you're still about  jerry
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Simond Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Oct 2021 at 22:18
Scary…
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iceni Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Oct 2021 at 11:59
Quote; "Foootman James, my insurer just looked the other way."

As  one of my cynical bosses once said  "you THINK you're insured"
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Thanks Johnno.
Very true remark about insurance, Iceni. On reflection, I think its worth paying the extra for legal cover. Not because the cut price solicitors used by the insurance company are any good but to pay for someone like 'Bike lawyer' to fight the case through the courts. My case was heard and won in the High Court. Then the other side appealed with a totally new story and set of excuses. Although my barrister was confident, I could not risk mortgaging my house to fight it.
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A grim tale to say the least, I'm not surprised by the insurance company's attitude though, I'd pass a comment but my honest opinion would definitely get this thread shut down. Angry GRRRR.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Oct 2021 at 19:41
Originally posted by Guzzished Guzzished wrote:

A grim tale to say the least, I'm not surprised by the insurance company's attitude though, I'd pass a comment but my honest opinion would definitely get this thread shut down. Angry GRRRR.

 
After a lady drove into me I dare not say what I think of insurance companies even with full police support and all singing , dancing policy . 
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In view of these experiences, does the learned collective think that the 2-wheeled equivalent of dash-cams (possible fore and aft) is a worthwhile investment?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote johnno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Oct 2021 at 22:46
Good question
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jerry atric Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Oct 2021 at 07:51
Haha, yes, I'm forever searching for one that doesn't make me look like a Telly tubby I never seem able to get them mounted to give a good view unless its on top of me bonce.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Oct 2021 at 08:12
Be aware that mounting on a helmet has it's dangers.
You will know of Herr Schumacher's accident skiing, his severe brain injury was caused by a helmet mounted camera being forced into his head.


Edited by Brian UK - 07 Oct 2021 at 10:17
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Better 5 minutes late in this world than years early in the next.
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Ref dash cams. They MAY prove something did or did not happen but they do not prevent anything from happening. Only drivers/riders behaviour will prevent a traffic accident. Personally I do not want to mount any extra garbage on my lid or my bike. 
And remember how many more cameras do you want watching you? I would be interested to see real statistics that prove dash cameras work to prove claims rather just feeding the YouTube generation their daily fix of life's horrors. And there is the trial by Facebook/YouTube etc. 
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Definitely full face for me. I cannot imagine travelling with an open helmet... cold, rain, insects.. Also I have gravel hits on my visor. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Andy M Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Oct 2021 at 09:10
I think cameras have good and bad points

Cost, they won't last more than a few years, they can equally prove you were guilty, a pain to mount.

They can prove you were in right. 

The reaction of other road users can vary from aggression to improvement to insanity based on trying to drive like they on their driving test in 1957.

My biggest issue is what will the sewer-ants actually use it for? They seem to want to settle all claims 50/50 because it is less work and the industry claws it back from all parties paying more. This is why I won't use the legal cover they sell with the legal mugging policy. Your own insurance company welching on the bet is as big a problem as the other party so you want your lawyer to work 100% for you.

The solution is the Australian Rego system where the basic cover has been nationalised so the industry has to compete for the top-up by giving extra services, but there is no momentum for change in the UK.

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