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    Posted: 12 Jun 2018 at 12:03
Hi I just bought a 2009 Nevada 750 IE last Saturday. Bike has 9500 miles on it. Had it's initial run-in service done and its second service too not too long ago.

Prior to viewing the bike I asked the owner to be sure to have all oils topped up and tyres pumped up with correct pressure as I would be most likely riding home on it.

I looked at the engine oil level before riding home. 

When the engine was COLD the owner screwed out the dipstick wiped it, and dipped it in WITHOUT screwing it in and looked at it. The dipstick only has ONE line on it NOT a min and Max line as described in the user manual. This line is stamped in the steel about 1/4" from the bottom of the stick.The bike was cold when dipped and I have read since these should be dipped hot. The oil level on the stick was to the top of the line. 

The owner said he was told at the dealership where the bike was bought that the oil level should be between the bottom of the stick and the top of the line 1/4" from the bottom. I wondered at this but perhaps the dealership figured this is the best way to dip for oil cold. 

The user manual says if you dip cold the oil level can temporarily drop below the minimum but it is not a problem provided the oil pressure and alarm warning light do not turn on at the same time.

I googled for info on my type of dipstick but could not find any info on a dipstick with only one line stamped on it. So, to be sure I took bike for a run then drained the oil out. There was 1.2L of oil in the bike. I measured out the correct amount of 10W60,  1.7 L and poured it in. The oil now comes to the top of the flattened criss-crossed part of the stick.

I am worried now this bike has been run with only 1.2 L of oil, it has toured France a few times too. Then again, it was serviced at a Moto Guzzi dealership.

I'm now concerned there may be early wear on the engine parts as a result. But, no oil pressure or engine fault lights have come on since I have been riding the bike. Luckily, I rode home taking my time and not going too fast from Belfast.

What do you reckon, do I need to get cylinders inspected? It runs lovely. Would 1.2L be sufficient in a small block?

All views appreciated.


Edited by IrishGene - 12 Jun 2018 at 12:06
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 2018 at 09:56
Sounds like it's OK. And you now know where the level is on the stick at 1.7L. That can be screwed in or not screwed in, your choice. E.g. if not screwed in add the thread depth to what you see, that's the screwed in level.  Be aware though small blocks can blow oil out the breather if too full. At least that is what I have read here and elsewhere. Maybe why PO was told to have it low on the stick. 

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Does this help?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IrishGene Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 2018 at 13:18
Red leader 1, that is my dipstick type!!

Can you tell me about it?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote red leader one Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 2018 at 13:53

This where the info came from and it appertains to my bike.


A 2013 V7 Stone.

I'm in no way technical so wouldn't be able to answer your question.

Just thought the pic might help.

My oil when it's dipped cold is on the number 2 mark so I'm hoping that's where it should be.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote IrishGene Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 2018 at 18:46
Funny thing is, after I drained the oil out of the Nevada, I put in about 1.7 L. I didn't drain the filter chamber, the oil is now up to the top of the flat criss-crossed mark on the dipstick when dipping cold.

Everybody seems to have a different way of doing this. Some say the total capacity is 1.7L and some say 2L (including the filter chamber) so I may have a tad too much in it but can take wee bit out. Thing is if the oil level is between the bottom of the stick and the little line stamped in the stick  that would seem to me to be WAY too low considering I drained and filled it and it is now showing to top after refilling with oil.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Andyb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 2018 at 20:33
Think logically.  If the oil was slightly too low, providing oil pressure was maintained, what is the problem?  A smaller volume of oil will age quicker and may get hotter, but in UK temperatures should not be a problem.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 2018 at 22:04
You can find a workshop manual in this list. http://guzzitek.org/gb/atelier_gb.htm




Edited by Brian UK - 14 Jun 2018 at 22:07
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