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    Posted: 31 Oct 2018 at 11:35
Some interesting machines including a LM 1, Ambassador, Lodola etc....



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Some nice bikes there. I particularly like the Victoria V35. And the Ambo'.........obviously

Edited by Dave P. - 31 Oct 2018 at 13:48
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nab301 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Nov 2018 at 19:39
Is it me or are there some eyewatering estimates on the Meriden Triumphs?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BobV7 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Nov 2018 at 19:48
Agree with that. I worked at a bike dealers in the mid seventies and if we'd left a brand new Triumph out on the pavement overnight with the keys in, it would still have been there in the morning.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iansoady Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 10:07
Some of the Triumph estimates are on the high side but they are for the "desirable" (not to me) models. The proof as ever will be in the final hammer prices.....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote V7Chris Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 10:49
Hmm. Not sure who comes up with the estimates. There is a very nice looking BMW R60 outfit with a Steib sidecar and I thought it was unlikely to go for as little as the estimate.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iansoady Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 11:35
A lot of estimates are "come and bid" rather than realistic. If I have it right, the reserve cannot be higher than the lower estimate value which may be why some of the estimates look on the high side, with people setting reserves which may be unlikely to be met..
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 12:49
Do they have to pay a listing fee or does the auction house only get the buyers' bit?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iansoady Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 15:27
Normally both the seller & buyer have to pay commission - generally 10 - 15%.

H&H costs:

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12.5% to the Buyer, 10% to the Seller (minimum £50 to both parties)
Entry Fee - £50 for a Standard Catalogue entry
£100 for a Premium Catalogue entry
£150 for a Deluxe Catalogue entry

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Brian UK Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 15:31
So if you put a silly reserve on an item, you pay the entry fee, but if not sold that's all.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rapheal Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 09:50
Some motorcycle do the rounds of Auctions, usually middle aged owners with large beards, waistcoats full of badges , and could bore for England
they rarely sell, its a form of one upmanship
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote iansoady Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 10:10
Originally posted by Brian UK Brian UK wrote:

So if you put a silly reserve on an item, you pay the entry fee, but if not sold that's all.


Yes. But I can't see the point in paying £50 plus getting the bike there and back on the off-chance. You'd probably do better on ebay (unless you're one of the types Rapheal mentions).
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Originally posted by iansoady iansoady wrote:

Yes. But I can't see the point in paying £50 plus getting the bike there and back on the off-chance. 

You probably get 2 free tickets to go into the auction which would normally cost you £25 or so. So if you want to look at other bikes to buy, or merely wander around boring people, then there could be some value to it.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2018 at 17:48
Originally posted by BobV7 BobV7 wrote:

Agree with that. I worked at a bike dealers in the mid seventies and if we'd left a brand new Triumph out on the pavement overnight with the keys in, it would still have been there in the morning.


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