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    Posted: 17 Oct 2014 at 15:21
As fitted to many of the V11 engine bikes as well as many others This part is £167 from Guzzi HOWEVER it is a common auto part fitted to many Fiat/Alphas and Lancia cars the part number is Magneti Marelli SEN-813 a search for it also shows it is the same as fitted to Ducati and MV F4 Brutale the NEW MV part is £39 ish the car part is about £34 ....These often do leak oil on the V11 's as I have just found out , fear not it is almost certain due to the O ring failing later specs have O ring plus gasket sealer used by Guzzi.
There is NO gasket as such but alloy shims to keep the correct gapping from the teeth. Use the same shims and all should be well.
 
IF you download the parts manual from This old tractor site the pics are on page 139 H14, Guzziology sect 7-14 if you have the V11 sport service manual  section I sect 16 (This too is downloadable for free from This old tractor)
 
SEE BELOW WHICHGUZZI BIKES IT FITS AND WHERE TO GET ONE FOR £25.95


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Oct 2014 at 22:23
Bluddy hell...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ken-Guzzibear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Oct 2014 at 14:13
fixed the sensor it seems the "o" ring is the weak point Mentioned to Mark at Twiggers the Guzzi price he was well aware it is IRO £130 and that the MV F4 Brutale one retails at £39 ish but yeah the car ones are the same part.... un F ing believable
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Oct 2014 at 15:34
Proving yet again the attitude that bikes are rich boys' toys
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Spoke to Mark at Twiggers the "O" ring .20p the sensor IS the same as fitted to the MVF$ Brutale ...it is crazy
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CRANKSHAFT-SENSOR-ALFA-ROMEO-145-146-1-4-FIAT-Tempra-Tipo-1-8-LANCIA-/251703577340?
This is the exact same part mine arrived quickly direct fit £24.96 as opposed to over £130 from Guzzi I had to really look hard for it I have told the seller and he is going to add the Bike  OR SEN-813 to make it easier to find this sensor is fitted to a whole load of Guzzis V11 series and all these
 
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All fired up nicely have not been on a run to check oil leak BUT reading the V11 Forum this sensor does cause these problems and they seem very expensive the FIAT one above is an intermotor part EXACTLY the same plugs into the loom (it has a plug with 3 pins on it) you DO need to keep the Guzzi alloy spacers as they are important to maintain the factory gap the Intermotor part number is listed on the e-bay link this company IS aware that these fit Guzzi/Ducati and MV bikes quick service good price
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Good info, thanks for your research.Clap

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I sourced the alternative part no's for these sensors as well as others and posted the details on the mgcgb forum about 3 years ago.


CRANKSHAFT/PHASE SENSORS

3 pin version fitted to 
V11 Sport ALL, 1100 Sport IE, Bellagio, Breva ALL, Cali EV, Cali Jackal, Cali Stone, Special, Vintage, Centauro, Griso ALL, MGS-01, Norge ALL, Quota 1100, Stelvio, V7 Classic, Nevada 750 (2004 On) 

Guzzi part no. gu01721600 

MAGNETI MARELLI       SEN813 
ALFA ROMEO       60810103 
FIAT                     7733001 


Make - Model - Type     Year     KW     HP     cc 
ALFA ROMEO 145 930 1.4 i.e.     07.94-12.96     66     90     1351 
ALFA ROMEO 146 (930) 1.4 i.e.     12.94-12.96     66     90     1351 
FIAT TEMPRA (159) 1.8 i.e. (159.AV)     09.93-08.96     76     103     1756 
FIAT TEMPRA (159) 1.8 i.e. (159.AZ)     09.93-08.96     66     90     1756 
FIAT TEMPRA (159) 1.8 i.e. (159.BY)     10.94-08.96     74     101     1756 
FIAT TEMPRA S.W. (159) 1.8 i.e. (159.AV)     09.93-08.96     76     103     1756 
FIAT TEMPRA S.W. (159) 1.8 i.e. (159.AZ)     09.93-08.96     66     90     1756 
FIAT TEMPRA S.W. (159) 1.8 i.e. (159.BY)     10.94-08.96     74     101     1756 
FIAT TIPO (160) 1.8 i.e.     09.93-04.95     66     90     1756 
FIAT TIPO (160) 1.8 i.e. (160.ED)     04.93-04.95     76     103     1756 
LANCIA DEDRA (835) 1.8 i.e. (835FA)     07.94-07.99     74     101     1756 
LANCIA DEDRA SW (835) 1.8 i.e. (835FA)     07.94-07.99     74     101     1756 
LANCIA DELTA Mk II (836) 1.8 i.e. (836AE)     06.93-08.99     76     103     1756 
LANCIA DELTA Mk II (836) 1.8 i.e. (836AG, 836AL)     07.94-08.99     66     90     1756 


Can be bought for £40 rather than £120 

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Postby HaydnR » Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:22 am

2 pin found in: 

1000 S USA 1993 
1000 SP3 USA 1993 
California III IE 
California 1100 IE 
Daytona 1000 
Quota 1000 
1100 Sport 
Strada 1000 

Marelli sen8e

ALFA ROMEO    5944390 
ALFA ROMEO    60512971 
ALFA ROMEO    60572239 
CITROEN           1920 FA , 1920FA 
FIAT                  5944390 
FIAT                  7604582 
PEUGEOT          1920FA 



ALFA ROMEO     164, 33 
CITROEN             Relay 
FIAT                    Croma, Ducato, Regata, Ritmo, Tempra, Tipo, Uno, 
LANCIA               Prisma, Thema 
PEUGEOT           Boxer 




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I listed all the guzzis the SEN-813 fits above available for £25,95 .....
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Originally posted by Ken-Guzzibear Ken-Guzzibear wrote:

I listed all the guzzis the SEN-813 fits above available for £25,95 .....

I know, you have mentioned it in every other post! LOL
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Ongoing all is good oil leak gone bike running far better
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Seems there is now another manufacturer and these are circa £20 ....use the Fiat part no to search 7733001
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