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Good grief, what's the world coming to?
Guy that works in my local petrol station was showing off his new alarm system the other day, about £30 off of flea bay, touch his bike and a loud authoratve voice goes, Step away from the bike, touch it again and a very loud ear piercing pulsing alarm goes off, can be set up as an imobiliser as well or just alarm, I was impressed and intend to get the details off him to fit to my bikes when he's had his for a while. ( Incase of any developing probs over time. )
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Immobilisers are the biggest cause of vehicles having to be recovered. No one pays the slightest bit of attention to them wailing away as the bike is lifted into a van. All you can do on the street is make yours harder to steal than the next one, a £150+ disc lock is about the current level, forget the cast ones that can be chiselled open in seconds. 

Spend your cash on having the house alarm extended into the garage (and buy your neighbours something at Christmas), tie down points and a chain with at least 13mm links and whatever other hardware (like bars that stop an up and over door being jacked) you need to upgrade the feeble locks most buildings have. Don't forget the hinges and roof, you can just drive the pins out of most shed doors and swing the door open on the lock, or just kick a hole in the roof or wall and open internal locks from the inside. UK thieves are not subtle, forget lock picking lawyers on YouTube. Parking a car in front of the bike helps, just don't keep the keys together. 

You should be spending about 10% of the contents value on security. Seems a lot, but good locks last years and given how many places have zero security there isn't really an arms race until you get into top end stuff that's stolen to order. 

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Our garage is within our garden but not attached to the house.

What I bought was a secondhand Baby alarm . Paid £8 for it.

One unit  simply plugs into a socket in the garage and the listening unit is in a socket right next to my bed.

It's incredibly sensitive and being mains powered is not likely to fail. ๐Ÿ‘


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Originally posted by Tony G Tony G wrote:

No it's not Brian.Wink When I got back from the NC500, I said no mare bikes's. But now I think if I don't then the scum have won.Disapprove


Will it be another Guzzi Tony?
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Originally posted by Tarquin Tarquin wrote:

Our garage is within our garden but not attached to the house.

What I bought was a secondhand Baby alarm . Paid £8 for it.

One unit  simply plugs into a socket in the garage and the listening unit is in a socket right next to my bed.

It's incredibly sensitive and being mains powered is not likely to fail. ๐Ÿ‘



How about a 10kv electric fence round it? (The farm type of course).

Brian.

Better 5 minutes late in this world than years early in the next.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tony G Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 18:51
Yes It's going to be another Guzzi  love the sound of them. 

I'll make the garage a bit more secure, if that's possible. Then get a ring battery CCTV. Every little thing helps
I'll get their soon
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote red leader one Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Sep 2022 at 21:20
Think of it like a Virus which nothing can stop.

The more barriers you place in it's way the harder it will be to break through.

Barriers,
 
Wash hands
 
Gel hands

Put on gloves.

Change gloves.

Put dirty wipes directly into waste bag etc (stops cross contamination)

5 Barriers


Now do it for the bike.

Suggestions please from everyone.
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First suggestion,

Hardware (like bars or posts that stop an up and over door being jacked open)
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Thats the next thing to get . Maybe a long bar to go alone the bottom of the door and padlocked each side. 

but where do you stop.
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Originally posted by Tarquin Tarquin wrote:

Our garage is within our garden but not attached to the house.

What I bought was a secondhand Baby alarm . Paid £8 for it.

One unit  simply plugs into a socket in the garage and the listening unit is in a socket right next to my bed.

It's incredibly sensitive and being mains powered is not likely to fail. ๐Ÿ‘



That's all very well if you have a second hand baby that needs to be secured by an alarm Tarquin, but what about those of us that are worried about securing our bikes in the garage? Frankly, I am surprised social services haven't visited you anyway if you're leaving babies unattended in the garage.....
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Not a bike but a story some years ago always makes me smile..
A softop MGB owner was always having his car stolen outside his house.. Always found, not too far away so just local joyriders..
Police were as usual not interested.. 
So, enterprising owner made a "security device"..  This comprised of a piece of plywood, some foam and a fabric cover to make a seat cushion...   To finish off he inserted a large quantity of large darning needles vertically in the foam before adding the cover..

Apparently he was woken one night by screams, his car wasn't touched again....

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I recall many years ago a magazine article that placed a fireflash/stage pyrotechnic in a huge tub of orange or green barrier cream , used a mousetrap as a contactor and connected the pin/string from that to the garage door.

Imagine how much some scrote could take you for these days if you deafened him, embedded a bit of plastic tub in his face and made him feel permanently sad, unsafe and with flashbacks going about in a world where an IED might be lurking in every locked out building he broke into.

Forget the fantasies of splitting the country in two and placing the wets, thieving chavs and human rights lawyers in the other half though, you will go to jail if you so much as look funny at a thief. You are easy to find, have something the authorities can take off you and aren't likely to be a popular demographic with the courts. You need to show you both feared for your life and had no other escape before the law will support you. The UK unfortunately isn't Texas on this score. 

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Originally posted by V7Chris V7Chris wrote:

Originally posted by Tarquin Tarquin wrote:

Our garage is within our garden but not attached to the house.

What I bought was a secondhand Baby alarm . Paid £8 for it.

One unit  simply plugs into a socket in the garage and the listening unit is in a socket right next to my bed.

It's incredibly sensitive and being mains powered is not likely to fail. ๐Ÿ‘



That's all very well if you have a second hand baby that needs to be secured by an alarm Tarquin, but what about those of us that are worried about securing our bikes in the garage? Frankly, I am surprised social services haven't visited you anyway if you're leaving babies unattended in the garage.....

Chris, as Captain Mainwearing would often say.................LOLLOLLOL
 


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What about a plank with nails through. Surely it's my garage I can secure it. Hmm it's difficult.
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Originally posted by Tony G Tony G wrote:

What about a plank with nails through. Surely it's my garage I can secure it. Hmm it's difficult.

Anything designed to hurt an intruder will get you in trouble. Goes all the way back to Georgian/Victorian poachers. Bear traps are illegal (unless you have have a problem with bears on your property) , shooting poachers with a licensed shot gun after they attack you a court would discuss. In todays climate the fact you suggested a board with nails on social media could well be a problem for your defence. 

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