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Brian UK
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Posted: 06 Feb 2017 at 20:23 |
Most will have heard of the new system for Paris, with their requirement to have a sticker to enter.Well it also applies to Lyon and Grenoble, with other cities taking an interest for the future. It may only apply on some "high pollution" days, but there is an on the spot fine of €113 for failure to display or entering when you shouldn't.
Basically there are 6 categories, 1 is the cleanest, 6 the most polluting, and entry would be limited to certain levels. This applies to all motor vehicles. The French government website is this https://www.certificat-air.gouv.fr/en/ conveniently in English. I haven't gone through the detail yet, but as non French, we have until March to comply if we wish to enter these areas. I'll post more as soon as possible. Maybe some of our members who live in France can help? Just don't get caught out.
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Brian UK
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Paris, Lyon and Grenoble are just the start. Strasbourg will be next to introduce the system, then the other 21 on this list:
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Brian UK
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It would appear that these rules will only apply Monday to Friday, 0800 - 2000.
Also I don't know exactly what the area limits would be, when it says Le Havre, would that prevent an older vehicle getting on or off the ferry?
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I mentioned this probable future problem on a forum, probably the facebook one, but maybe this one and was shot down in flames for scaremongering.
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Mike H
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Here's what the numbers mean - in French but you get the general idea...
http://www.developpement-durable.gouv.fr/Un-certificat-qualite-de-l-air,43566.html Note '5' doesn't mean all-comers are welcome, if your bike is older than 1997, "Entrée interdite!" . |
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Mike H
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Beg your pardon, looking at the diesel column, No. '3'. Still 1997.
Edited by Mike H - 06 Feb 2017 at 21:32 |
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Brian UK
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Motorcycle one is here.
Edited by Brian UK - 08 Feb 2017 at 08:10 |
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Thank you for flagging this up Brian. First I had heard of it. Combustion motors will be history one day so there is good reason to ride our bikes as much as we can right now.
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Mike H
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Oh right, forgot is different - 2000 then. I remember this now from the original topic - anything older than June 2000, forget it. Well depending on the time of day / week. (?) . |
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I get 404 not found on this url. |
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Brian UK
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Guess what, they have changed the URL, how helpful. It's now a PDF file not png.
In case anyone wants it, the car one is here.
Edited by Brian UK - 08 Feb 2017 at 08:12 |
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Useful info but I'm not going to get too excited. The chances of actually being spotted, pulled over and then done out there must lie somewhere between highly remote and very very small.
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Brian UK
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First of all, it won't be difficult to avoid the places concerned, not many will want to venture into central Paris or Grenoble.
BUT, I think the local plod will be looking for those stickers, certainly in the early stages, and visitors are likely to be included, easy money as far as they are concerned.
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Does the copper get a percentage of the fines he issues?
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Brian UK
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No, AFAIK.
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