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    Posted: 10 Nov 2019 at 10:26
Hi everyone 

Please don't shoot me, I am not cafe racering the V50, but I want to try and get the most simples modern set up I can during the restoration. 

I have the airbox, not sure how good it is but I have it, so that is not the issue and I have searched but there is not much about the pros and cons or indeed the suitability of fitting pods. 

I am a long way off yet but wanted to sound it out and glean all your wonderful experiences, if I may. 

From what I can gather so far, I would need the smaller pods as there is not much room, a system for the engine breather and oil return thingy and probably a bit of re-jetting. 

So do you think this a good idea or a bad idea please. 

Cheers 

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Edited by Ian T - 10 Nov 2019 at 11:20
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Ian,
I have a V35II (smaller brother to V50III) to which PO had fitted small pod filters sourced from Gutsibits.
He had sawn the stubs on the back of the carbs to allow the pods to fit "straight back". They are small (they need to be, very little room) and actually rest against one another.

My bike has always run rich (currently won't run at all, but that's another story)...

If your bike runs ok to be honest I would say "if it ain't broke...." as most attempts I have made at improving mine in this area has made matters worse..

Should you decide to go for pods and want rid of the (admittedly cumbersome & awkward) airbox arrangement, let me know !!

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Sorry Ian,
Forgot to mention..

PO had left the breather pipes from the rocker box pointing down onto the crankcases.. Shocked

I inserted a "T" piece and a length of rubber pipe which now directs any surplus (haven't seen any in the brief time it ran) down behind the gear pedal / centrestand frame area.
This works for me, but then I mainly own British bikes where directing oil away from legs, tyres etc is a way of life....

Hope this helps,

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The original airbox does work well I`m told, unfortunately I`ve never had a V50 with one fitted so haven`t got first hand knowledge. Most airboxes are removed because they are difficult to work with when changing filters (two previous owners have sited this as the reason for fitting pods). All my V50s have been fitted with pods and once set up they need little maintenance, however it`s well documented on here what too small pods can cause running wise so be aware. General rule is a 10% increase on main jet size which has always worked for me. Pods cannot be fitted without the plastic angled intakes at the back of the carbs which brings the pods parallel to each other or angled pods will fit, a thinner battery helps as well.
As for the breathers I route the rocker breathers in to the back of the pods via a hose connector bolted into the filter end. The sump return pipe can then be sealed with a plain bolt

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Edited by c13pep - 10 Nov 2019 at 17:54
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Maybe the air box is difficult, but just how often do you need to change the filter? Part of the intake design is the shape of the intake to the carb, this can make quite a difference to power output. Pods will ruin that aspect.
Also the free volume inside the airbox is important, again pods fail here.
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Thanks everyone 

It does seem like if you got it use it as original setup is best. I did think as much but the pods do look kinda sexy!!!

Adrian thank you for the kind offer and if I do end up going that way I will certainly be in touch. 

Cheers

Ian
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I have cone shaped K&N lookalikes on my V50. They do collide with each other but seem to work OK. No carburettors were harmed during the making of this mod.

Having said that, I rarely if ever take it over 6,000 rpm which is where I would expect any problems to arise.
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