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I adjusted my clutch lever free play only once for 'the best feel', and never had to again since. As far as I can tell the amount of slack hasn't changed. Never had to look at the gearbox end adjuster. V7 850 Special, 2021 (bought October). Coming up to 5,000 miles.

I will be doing the next full service myself and I want to video it, but I don't think it will happen before springtime next year tho.

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BTW Am I going barmy or should the headlight ie dip or main beam come on as soon as the ignition key is set to run?

No, when engine starts.

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perhaps the LED headlight in the Stone is wired differently from the H4 bulb in the Special

No, the behaviour is exactly the same.

Just as a point of interest, this behaviour is identical to the two Piaggio X10 maxi-scooters I had – no headlight until engine starts. Personally I prefer it TBH, but makes testing your headlight bulb a bit of a pain.





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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Speciality Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2022 at 22:15
Thanks for that; I must be going senile because I thought the headlight came on with the ignition - must be my Honda then (ahem). Good to know about the clutch adjustment too. I believe mine had too much slack when I got it. They didn’t do anything to it at the first service. I have a feeling (hope) that the clunkiness in the first three gears will be gone. We’ll see.
Anyway, thanks again. Really these are pretty straightforward to service.
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A minor update: I went for a decent ride today and called in at the supplying dealer, mainly to have a nosey at the clutch adjustment on their demonstrator, a Stone. Lo and behold, the amount of thread showing on both the operating lever at the gearbox end and at the cable adjuster on the gearbox is the same as mine. The clutch operation also feels the same. So essentially mine was delivered with a too slack clutch adjustment, which probably explains the crunchy gearbox, relative to the smooth ones I keep reading about and seeing on videos. I do wonder if the dealers PDI them….Silly me for thinking it was just a bit of extra slack in the cable (better than too tight), rather than a fundamental failure to set it properly in the first place. It certainly feels more like it should now.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2022 at 16:05
So there ya go. Gear change does get less crunchy with miles and after warming up. How many miles on yours? When mine was still brand new, sometimes it would point-blank refuse to change up until it had had a couple more minutes to warm up ... Confused


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Yes, mine would always go silently into first at the beginning of a ride and then it felt like the gear lever was stuck. I did wonder whether it was my inadvertently not allowing the lever to centralise after selecting first but it only ever happened from cold. It occurs to me that maybe the selectors need a bit of oil fling to get going. Mine improved by the simple expedient of raising the gear lever a little, allowing me to finesse my gear-changing a little, both up and down the box. It would be nice if I could do the same to the rear brake lever. The change has got better as mileage has increased. Mileage is a bit under 3000 miles, partly because I have another bike and partly because personal circumstances have prevented my riding as much as I’d have liked this year, which for a number of reasons I’ll be glad to see the back of.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2022 at 16:41
Originally posted by Speciality Speciality wrote:

then it felt like the gear lever was stuck.

Yes that was it exactly.

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Ditto: mine goes into first quietly and when it’s cold occasionally it won’t shift up at first. Mine has just less than 200 miles and I can get it into 2nd and 3rd without the clunk occasionally. It’s finding the best rpm /mph to shift without over reving the motor I am not sure on as it has great torque though out the range
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Just over 8000 miles and it doesn't go away. 

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It only happens below about 8 degrees air temp until the fast idle function ends.
The correct gearbox oil is critical. Use the 750 spec stuff and it's ten times worse.
Clutch adjustment while important seems to stay put.

I've stopped worry about it. The "computer-sez-no" on the first couple of pushes of the starter button are more annoying.

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