|
Buying a late second hand Guzzi? |
Post Reply 
|
Page 12> |
| Author | ||
Brian UK 
Moderator Group 
Joined: 13 May 2014 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 18226 |
 Post Options
 Thanks(0)
 Quote Reply
 Topic: Buying a late second hand Guzzi?Posted: 26 Aug 2015 at 08:52 |
|
|
All the late range of Guzzi models (since 2005 at least) have immobilisers built in to the ignition system.
If you are considering buying one, make sure you get both keys, AND the security code from the seller. There are too many reports of new owners who only got one key and then losing it having to buy not only a new ignition switch, but also replacing the dash because the code cannot be recovered by Guzzi dealers. This will set you back the larger part of a grand. Be warned. To the best of my knowledge the only company which can do anything about this situation is Carmo Electronics in the Nederland.
|
||
|
Brian.
Better 5 minutes late in this world than years early in the next. |
||
 |
||
|
red leader one
Senior Member 
Joined: 07 Oct 2014 Location: Cullercoats Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 26 Aug 2015 at 08:59 |
|
|
I bought my V7 in 2013 new .
Got two keys but don't remember any codes. |
||
|
||
|
Ianboydsnr
Senior Member
Joined: 14 May 2014 Location: Cumbria Status: Offline Points: 831 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 26 Aug 2015 at 09:08 |
|
|
I think I have about 4 keys,
I reset the code in the dash, which I think you can recover the code, if you have 2 keys! it's handy to know the code, because in extreme wet conditions, my bike has failed to recognise the key on a couple of occasions!
|
||
|
||
|
rbt1548
Senior Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Glasgow Status: Offline Points: 1246 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 07:55 |
|
There's a chance that it's on something that's similar to a credit card in shape and size, which could be in with your handbook, some makes of bikes have a small pocket in the front or rear cover of the handbook to hold the card. the number could also be written down in the front of the handbook or service book, possibly in the area where the engine and frame numbers etc., are. I'm not trying to teach my granny to suck eggs here, or, even trying to tell her how to adjust an ironing board for height for that matter, but it may be a good idea to note the numbers down in your mobile phone or in a file on your computer, or stick a note in your wallet. For any old curmudgeon, who says that they refuse to use a mobile phone or computer........ how are you managing to read this???, oops, sorry! I may have got my forums mixed up!
 |
||
|
1977 Ducati 860GTS
1974 Honda CB450 K7 1958 Wife It wisnae me, a big boy done it and ran away! "I was so much older then; I'm younger than that now!" |
||
|
||
|
Brian UK
Moderator Group
Joined: 13 May 2014 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 18226 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 10:31 |
|
|
Baldrick always used to set it to the owner's date of birth. The factory default is I think 5 zeros.
Of course you don't need a high tech way to store the code, often a pencil and the owners manual will suffice. If you don't have an owners manual, you can download one from the internet with your mobile phone.
 |
||
|
Brian.
Better 5 minutes late in this world than years early in the next. |
||
|
||
|
Scousus maximus
Senior Member
Joined: 28 May 2014 Location: Teesside Status: Offline Points: 263 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 10:58 |
|
|
Don't think the V7 range have this level of complexity, not mentioned in the manual anyway.
Regards, John |
||
|
2012 V7 Stone
|
||
|
||
|
Jim Mac
Moderator Group
Joined: 14 May 2014 Location: Edinburgh Status: Offline Points: 3303 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 10:58 |
|
|
i remember someone suggesting the first or last five numbers (or any variable) from the frame number - always on hand, if only i could remember what numbers i picked ....
when i lost a key to my Norge i contacted the dealer that sold it to find out the security number - they didnt know but suggested the default 00000 - he was right
|
||
|
new Stelvio BMW R45
Too old to die young |
||
|
||
|
BobV7
Senior Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2014 Location: W. Sussex Status: Offline Points: 2740 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 11:21 |
|
|
Can't find any mention of code numbers for my 2010 V7.
|
||
|
V7 Classic Black and gold was the best. But green & black was nice too. Now blue is in!
|
||
|
||
|
Brian UK
Moderator Group
Joined: 13 May 2014 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 18226 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 12:02 |
|
Yes, did wonder about that. Do they not have an immobiliser chip in the key?
|
||
|
Brian.
Better 5 minutes late in this world than years early in the next. |
||
|
||
|
red leader one
Senior Member
Joined: 07 Oct 2014 Location: Cullercoats Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 18:55 |
|
|
Right. I've had a look at the paper work,purchase, service book etc no sign of a code.
( I haven't looked under the ironing board though) What I do have on the spare key & ring is a Zadi (that's the key Make I think) number on a bit of plastic. I'm doing a pic so this is just a taster  But there are only 4 numbers on the bit of plastic Edited by red leader one - 27 Aug 2015 at 19:06 |
||
|
||
|
Mike H
Senior Member
Joined: 21 May 2014 Location: East Anglia Status: Offline Points: 9053 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 19:30 |
|
Yes my Piaggio scooter is like that. Code on card and two keys black one to ride with and a brown master key. The keys have transponders (chips) in them that transmit a code to the immobiliser gizmo when you turn it on. Can't see why the same system wouldn't be used on the V7. Transponder keys have been around for at least 20 years at any rate for cars. |
||
|
"Chicken nuggets don't dance on a Tuesday."
|
||
|
||
|
Ken-Guzzibear
Moderator Group
Joined: 13 May 2014 Location: Sileby Leics Status: Offline Points: 9457 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 21:56 |
|
|
My V11 Le Mans it was a wee metal tag with the key numbers on it of course no immobiliser I had an alarm immobiliser fitted by towza, Wrote the info into the service manual, done the same with the car alarms and the New Cali EV
|
||
|
The Older i Get, The Better I Was
|
||
|
||
|
rbt1548
Senior Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Glasgow Status: Offline Points: 1246 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 28 Aug 2015 at 08:27 |
|
Aw man, you've lost one!!!!!  To save concerning yourself about whether there is or isn't a code for it, give your supplying dealer, or any Guzzi dealer, a call and they should be able to give you a definitive answer.....No sniggering at the back now!
|
||
|
1977 Ducati 860GTS
1974 Honda CB450 K7 1958 Wife It wisnae me, a big boy done it and ran away! "I was so much older then; I'm younger than that now!" |
||
|
||
|
iceni
Senior Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2014 Location: Colchester Status: Offline Points: 2488 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 28 Aug 2015 at 08:34 |
|
|
Reminds me of my Fiat of a few years ago. If you didn't get the brown key when you bought the car, in the event of problems, it would cost about £900 to replace all the locks. Not everyone knew that, and it caused a lot of customer dis-satisfaction. There was also a plastic card with the code in the documentation.
|
||
|
||
|
Brian UK
Moderator Group
Joined: 13 May 2014 Location: Surrey Status: Offline Points: 18226 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Quote Reply
Posted: 28 Aug 2015 at 08:52 |
|
|
That is included with most cars AFAIK, certainly Peugeot and Citroen. This usually gets lost so the next owner has a problem if a new key is required, but in the two manufacturers mentioned, you can ask for a new one, cost about £25 I was told.
I only got one key with the car I recently bought, and no card. Fortunately Timpsons do a clone service which gets round the problem. Don't know if that could be done for the Guzzi keys.
|
||
|
Brian.
Better 5 minutes late in this world than years early in the next. |
||
|
||
|
Post Reply
|
Page 12> |
Tweet
|
| Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |
Topic Options
red leader one wrote: