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    Posted: 18 Mar 2021 at 11:11


Edited by Ken-Guzzibear - 05 May 2021 at 12:34
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They are living in the past...Torque in kgm, nowadays it's Nm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ken-Guzzibear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2021 at 15:26
This is how it is presented don't blame me ..... 
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Thanks Ken.
 x 10 to go from kgm to Nm.  Or 9.81 to be exact.

The values in the table will be for clean ungreased threads.   Lube the threads and the torque values have to lower by about 1/3 as the threads slide over each other easier.

20NM for M8 and 12NM for M6 is usually about right - but of course nylocs make a nonsense of any torque value!

Just realised...these are for the original V7

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There are often folk asking about them came across these ones, The V1000SP-G5-Convert ones are straight from the workshop Manual I scanned it they are in Ft-lbs and Nm. My wrenches are NM and Ft-lbs. Never used a torque wrench on small stuff. Taught old school, I did actually check once or twice and to be fair they were all spot on. The wheel bolts and head bolts need the wrench. Head bolts live in oil. 
For those new to spannering oil fill/drain plugs useful to use. 
You can now buy a 10-150 ft lb wrench for as little as £22 tested to +-3% which is same as a £90 one from high st auto shop 
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Torque settings are always based on bolt diameter and material (like if they are screwed into aluminium). So it matters little how old the list is. If that is the bolt size and material it will be the same.
Torque setting is usually 'unlubricated' which is not quite the same as bone dry (degreased); it allows for the very thin film of oil/grease found on new bolts. Fasteners are usually assembled without oiling, especially if using thread locking cement.
Do remember MG are metric and do make mistakes converting kg-m (or Nm) to ft-lb - note they got "ft/lb" above.  (it's not foot per pound but foot x pound). Italians have never worked in feet and pounds.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jefrs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 May 2021 at 12:16
1 kg.m is 9.80665 Nm (call it 10) - it's acceleration due to gravity.

10Nm = 1kg.m - near enough for a torque wrench.
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NB these are the early 70's V750 Sport and T850 as well as T3 The Tonti frames 
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Originally posted by R100CS R100CS wrote:

They are living in the past...Torque in kgm, nowadays it's Nm


I think the oldest continuous motorcycle manufacturer can be allowed to live a little in the past, no? 
Not forgetting the V7 has been around since the very early '70's...

At least the fasteners are metric - my imperial kit is for the Bradford alone LOL
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Does it matter what the units are as long as you know which you are using?

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It helps to think about what the unit means eg Standard bag of sugar hanging on the end of a 1 foot socket wrench = 2.2 ft-lbs; but it's a struggle to balance all the bags of sugar needed to get the gearbox nut off Wink
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And doubling the length of the wrench in order to half the number of bags of sugar doesn't work as the frame gets in the way.
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Originally posted by paulbricey paulbricey wrote:

It helps to think about what the unit means eg Standard bag of sugar hanging on the end of a 1 foot socket wrench = 2.2 ft-lbs; but it's a struggle to balance all the bags of sugar needed to get the gearbox nut off Wink

Do you need the torque figure to remove a nut ?

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